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Resurfacing rotor housings

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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#16 Post by 1980rx7 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:30 pm

1980rx7 wrote:Great thread im getting my hands on a 12a turbo in bits soon,seal marked the housing hope the rotor is ok, if its marked up can the rotor be cleaned within reason?
I assume this is the H people talk about on top of the 12A housing they look pretty scored up bit of chrome missing any one do resurfacing in Aus ?
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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#17 Post by bumpstart » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:47 pm

think those are done.. your best bet may be FC 13b housings that are edge worn and take them down 5mm each side and get them grooved again for water seal and o ring

( thinks there is several places doing this now, ...try extreme )


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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#18 Post by 1980rx7 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:28 pm

bumpstart wrote:think those are done.. your best bet may be FC 13b housings that are edge worn and take them down 5mm each side and get them grooved again for water seal and o ring

( thinks there is several places doing this now, ...try extreme )
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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#19 Post by gypsy » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:30 pm

I think without bumpstart spelling it completely out then the answer is a definite yes !

Not only is there chrome peeling meaning that they are on their very last legs, the scores appear in what I believe is the critical compression area between the intake and the plugs.

Unfortunately they are not even heavy enough to be used as boat anchors, best place in the weekly recycle bin :laugh:


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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#20 Post by 1980rx7 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:54 pm

gypsy wrote:I think without bumpstart spelling it completely out then the answer is a definite yes !

Not only is there chrome peeling meaning that they are on their very last legs, the scores appear in what I believe is the critical compression area between the intake and the plugs.

Unfortunately they are not even heavy enough to be used as boat anchors, best place in the weekly recycle bin :laugh:
ahhh yeah.... was thinking ill see if they can be resurfaced.



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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#21 Post by NANCY » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:24 pm

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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#22 Post by 1980rx7 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:45 pm

NANCY wrote:south coast rotary
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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#23 Post by FreelanceMotorsports » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:52 am

1980rx7 wrote:
1980rx7 wrote:Great thread im getting my hands on a 12a turbo in bits soon,seal marked the housing hope the rotor is ok, if its marked up can the rotor be cleaned within reason?
I assume this is the H people talk about on top of the 12A housing they look pretty scored up bit of chrome missing any one do resurfacing in Aus ?
We've worked on far worse housings than these. The flaking in the bottom portion of the housing isn't too bad as long as you switch to a one piece apex seal or put the corner piece on the other side of the rotor housing to prevent further flaking.

The damage to the one housing (apex seal scoring) can be minimized if the areas are not too deep. The pictures are not perfectly clear but it doesn't look like they are really that bad. You're more than welcome to contact us with better pictures and we'll give you a better idea.



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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#24 Post by buzzme » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:15 am

I can vouch for Xtreme on this as I've used a few sets that they've done. It's a 5 step process unlike others that do them. They are first cut down just under 5mm in the Cnc then into the surface grinder to get exactly 5mm and to ensure they are flat end to end the back in the Cnc for the other side and back into the surface grinder. Then back to the Cnc for water seal grooves. These housing also have "Mazda 12a" recut into the tops too.
Unfortunately late housings (post 86) cannot have water seals cut into them as the outer is to close to the exterior of housing and may blow through with casting variations.
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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#25 Post by bumpstart » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:27 am

that is interesting about the water groove.

though the few times i advocated for the trimmed down housings they have been for 12C engines using the FC plates

i expect in this situation then extreme may instead groove your existing plates to upgrade them to a post 86 spec
as the only way to ensure you can keep that early block and still find a reasonable supply of housings


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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#26 Post by bumpstart » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:52 pm

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s5 housings . 12a style. there is between 1 and 2mm behind the outside water seal top edge and the outside shoulder lip . if the seal is relocated on a slightly lesser radius , then a fair bit more

i dont see the issue on these but it is possible if you ran a batch one or two may be on the thin side

the next couple sets i will get done will move the inside water seal around a potential monster port

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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#27 Post by bumpstart » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:12 am

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progress pics

this one will be slimmed to 12a like above and has a little further to go .
should be able to lose the edge scratches in that process so from here just needs the polish stage


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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#28 Post by bumpstart » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:47 am

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both housings together. ex garden ornament. painting dummies


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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#29 Post by Slides » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:42 pm

Nice work.

Is there anyone eastern seaboard doing this commercially? Not listed on xtreme website.



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Re: Resurfacing rotor housings

#30 Post by bumpstart » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:13 am

nope

but there might be a few furiously trying to make a jig now i slipped out a vid :lol:


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